• Papabybike

    My first exposure to a double was on my salsa vaya. I liked the idea, but not the fact that you can’t lower a compact more than 34 tooth. Never happy with the vaya, but sold on doubles. I built up a rawland with the vo polyvalent crankset and I’m sold on a 46/30. I just wish there were other options than vo as they’re out of stock whenever I decide to order the 50.4 bcd ones. I’m out a crankset till their container comes in.

    For a smaller inner ring, check out harris cyclery.

    July 10, 2012
  • Just want to echo your excellent review. My crankset progression was racing double, to triple, to this one. I’m very happy. I thought the big ring size difference would make shifting a bit harsh, but it has been as smooth as anything I’ve ever experienced.

    July 10, 2012
  • Brian Ogilvie

    Papabybike: There are a couple of other possibilities for a wide-range double, though they’re more expensive than the VO crank. Compass Cycles sells a René Herse-branded 70mm BCD double, with chainrings from 24t to 50t. Peter White carries the Spécialités TA Carmina crankset, with an interchangeable spider; the 94mm BCD double will take a small ring as small as 30t and a large as big as 50t.

    July 11, 2012
  • Lee

    Russ, thanks so much for this post. I’ve been getting ready to build up a Handsome Devil as my do-most-everything bike – from some (most likely light) touring, to long day road rides with friends to commuting. Although I live in a not super hilly area now, I used to live in the PNW and thought that for touring sake alone I would definitely need a triple. But, this has me thinking maybe not?

    July 11, 2012
  • Papabybike

    I think for another option, surly’s Mr. Whirly can be set up with a similar range too. Most of the other options aren’t off the shelf solutions so you have to know what you want. And the cost often ends up a bit high compared to a basic compact double or triple. All that being said, I much prefer this setup and like having a low range as opposed to a 1x setup or a triple.

    July 11, 2012
  • M88

    Why have you switched back from your Bromptons to a full size bike?

    July 11, 2012
  • bigschill

    Another option is to scour EBAY for 94/58 bcd crankset, the so called compact mountain cranksets popular in the 80-90’s. Ritchey did one and Raceface, Specialized etc. They will take a 29T ring in the middle position.

    July 15, 2012
  • AP

    What bottom bracket length did you use?

    August 12, 2012
  • You can do 42/26 using the middle and inner rings of a 110/74 triple. Combine it with an 11/34 cassette and you have 103 to 20 gear inches. It takes the compact philosophy and extends it to lower gearing. I’ve used this “super-compacy” set up for years.


    August 31, 2012
  • Brian Simms


    It’s been a long while since I’ve responded to any of your writings. I started watching your progression into cycling back in 2009 when you were in the LBC. Glad to see you two are still going strong!

    Thanks for this review. I have a VO triple in a box waiting for a VO BB and a few other items before I do a major drivetrain refresh. I’ve had some concerns about going to a triple, plus it requires replacing more of the drivetrain than I’d like. I think I will send the triple back and get this double. The plan will be to match this with a Shimano XT 9 speed rear derailleur with a SRAM Apex 10 cassette and Ultegra brifter.

    I am doing a 6 day tour this summer from Crescent City to SF. The plan is to go light. Camping each night but no cooking. Last time I toured this section we ended up cooking only a few times. It wasn’t worth carrying the extra gear everyday.

    March 09, 2013
  • [...] simply don’t exist in the mainstream cycling market, I was ecstatic. Having previously tried Velo-Orange Grand Cru cranks, I was sold on the wide-range double concept and was interested on Sugino’s take on [...]

    May 12, 2013
  • Aaron Young

    Hi Russ,

    Thanks for this review. I read this review when you wrote it which is almost two years ago now. How about a quick update? Are you still using this crank set up? Any issues that have popped up over time? I keep planning on putting a wide range double on my bike, but never seem to get around to it. Thanks.

    May 15, 2014
  • Hi there Aaron,
    I sold the bike with the cranks a few months ago just to cull the fleet a little. The cranks were still working great. No problem. If there is any complaint, I prefer a slightly smaller large chainring. I’m running the Sugino Compact cranks with 44/30 and really dig that combo. Combined with a 12-36, I rarely have to shift out of the “big” ring except for steep climbs.


    May 19, 2014

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